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leadership on a urm inform issues and ultimately joined the leadership. we saw jim demint from south carolina become an important king maker in the senate. having a lot influence. in 2008 we saw the ultimate congressional back bench in the person of paul ryan show you can have a lasting impact on the debate. i think that is where the action is going to be going forward. the final thing i would say in terms of opportunities for limiting the federal government is if you look at when conservatives and libertarians have been conservative in the -- successful in the past. it's been in response to liberal government. to people always like big government when it's free. soon we're going see the middle class begin to pay some of the costs, and that is really the circumstances under which the social revolution of the 1960 and '70s gave way to the limited skeet reform of the '70s and 1990s to a point when you are democratic presidents talking about the era of being over and deficit reduction the best thing for the economy. and actually talking about entitlement reform. unfortunately nothing happened. t
, that is the --. >> host: charles there is tweet relating to what you're saying. jim writes can an american citizen be considered an enemy combatant? >> guest: absolutely goes back to the civil war. goes certainly to world war ii. anwar al-awlaki was american-born. president obama use ad drone to kill him in the wilds of yemen. if you, if you fill eight yourself with enemy forces and you go to war against american citizens and you kill americans will fully and you do so on behalf of a movement or enemy forces then indeed you can be considered an enemy combatant. being a enemy combatant simply because you're an american citizen. if in world war ii you went over and joined nazi forces were you not a enemy combatant? of course you were. . . >> he didn't treat those terrible tragedies as access war, but appropriately treated them as heinous criminal acts to be investigated, prosecuted, and appropriately punishes. >> host: al-alwaki was an american citizen, kimed on orders of president obama. did president obama violate the constitution by doing that? >> guest: well, actually, we have a lawsuit in which
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